Yes, USCF has in fact standardized the 2-second delay for Blitz. However, some organizers are talking about deviating from this standard, which they are allowed to do by giving notice in all pre-tournament publicity. My post was aimed not at USCF, but rather at these organizers, in an attempt to talk some sense into them. I’m glad you’re on my side already.
Bill Smythe
Even with blitz, even the quick events are very few. Some pockets in America do not have any tournaments, even if the area does have events most of the tournaments are at G/30 or slower; with the federation having to make the event between G/30 to G/60 duel rated, has shown how few or how little events are rated between G/10 to G/29.
With the federation having changed the rating from quick on both sides from first being G/10 to G/29 as quick has now changed too G/5 to G/60, if you look at a game at G/60 the total time would be 120 minutes, a G/5 the total time would be 10 minutes; the same people could play 12 G/5 games or one G/60 game and still be called Quick.
As the federation has a very thin amount of rules of blitz that in itself gives great pains of wanting to change the limited rules with most chess players. The federation needs to be very clear on the blitz rules, then it will take years before the rank and file accpet the new rules. With it being G/5 only a handfull will play it. Blitz is never going to be a rating even if it stands on its own with its own blitz rating, only a very small group will even play this kind of event.
Earnest,
Douglas M. Forsythe, local td
If the federation is in the mood to have a third USCF over-the-board rating. Then having a blitz rating should be used, untill that time, most clubs will not have any blitz tournaments that are USCF rated. Blitz tournaments are going to be for most parts, unless it is for the state championship be non USCF rated.
USCF 5th Edition Rules, Blitz Chess, Variation 3A: “Illegal move causes loss. A player making an illegal move and hitting the clock shall forfeit the game, if called by the opponent before touching a piece. The one exception to the touch restriction is if a player leaves the king in check, the opponent may then touch the piece delivering the check and remove the player’s king from the board in order to claim a win caused by such an illegal move.”
I run a USCF rated blitz tournament every month and tell everybody that we are using variation 3A of the USCF Blitz rules in relation to illegal moves. This seems to work very well since most of the people that play blitz at the Club are used to the WBCA rules and this is exactly what used to happen in their rules.
Regards,
Chris
How do you take care of the entry fee? As most blitz tournaments the entry fee has been around $2 per tournament. If having a large blitz tournament what have you charged for the entry fee then cover the rating fees.
Doug: What the hell has this reply anything to do with the original (fantasychess’) post? In fact, fantasychess didn’t even ask a question - he merely stated a point. Now you want to ask a question regarding EF to a post related to illegal moves in Blitz chess. Sorry, I don’t see the correlation.
This forum can get really messed up if we continue to add irrelavant comments to the original post.
I don’t want to get embroiled in any personal arguments/attacks etc. but I believe the original title of this forum discussion was Blitz Chess and Chess Clubs and so this is probably a good/suitable place to answer Doug’s question.
We don’t charge a fee to Club members for playing in our monthly blitz tournament as we charge an annual membership fee ($30). We do however allow non-Club members to participate in the tournament at a cost of $2 each. The annual fees, along with the additional entries from non-Club members go to pay the rating fees and any small prize fund we may have.
Regards,
Chris
You’re probably correct, Chris. I didn’t look at the original title, only your post, and couldn’t understand how an EF had anything to do with how to punish an illegal move. Sorry!
As Chris stated they have a rated tournament, with most non-rated blitz tournaments the entry fee is only $2. Just asking how they take care of the entry fee for a USCF rated tournament: as the $2 entry fee in a non-USCF tournaments go to the prize fund and the club as a whole. My warrent for the question, was on his tournament being a “rated USCF tournament”; not the question of illegal moves during a blitz game, as how does his club take care of the rating fee. Chris told it well, they take the $30 membership fees as the way for the tournament too be rated. Membership fees to cover the rating fees of a club tournament is a great idea.