The USCF Category Titles

Absolutely. I wasn’t complaining, I was just stating it as a fact. North Dakota itself has a solid chess scene for a state of its size, I just happened to live in the part of North Dakota that even other North Dakotans consider remote :slight_smile:

If you live in remote areas, a lot of parts of your life will be at a disadvantage. My wife is a music lover, but when we moved out there she wasn’t able to go to many concerts anymore. But there’s advantages too, and with the internet the disadvantages have shrunk considerably.

Excellent idea!!!
Now that Board approved, when can we expect to see Victory Points implemented? Is much programming needed? I think the ability to calculate by state will be especially helpful to our state…

There are no plans to post any additional ‘by state’ lists at this time.

I think we should be able to start posting Victory Points for events that ended in 2011 within the next few weeks, though my understanding of the Board’s motion is that we will not compute Victory Points retroactively for events that ended prior to 1/1/2011.

When I was preparing for my tournament that was held yesterday, I was looking up some of the pre-registered players, and discovered that one of them had earned the Category IV title the previous weekend. He had achieved a Category III norm, and that was the fifth norm he had received at level IV or above.

Curious, I asked him about the titles and norms before the start of my tournament. He had never heard of them, and was unaware of his achievement. I had to explain the difference between the Category IV versus the Class D, and after I explained it, the difference between a Category title and a ratings floor.

It had been my intention to recognize all those earning norms at the tournament, but the site didn’t have internet access so I couldn’t look up players’ current levels during the tournament, and the logistics of the day didn’t allow me much time to look things up while the event was going on. It’s a small pity. I think the player in question did in fact earn a new category 3 norm at the event (the tournament info hasn’t appeared at the web site yet to be absolutely certain), and I know some other players achieved norm level performances, but without being able to compare to current levels, I wasn’t able to know if they already had achived those titles.

I’ll repeat a previous request, that the “title” information be included in the ratings supplement, or, if that would wreak havoc with current software, that a separate “title supplement” be published that would allow titles to be more easily tracked by TDs, so that if we do choose to recognize these in any way, we can do so. The current “point” standing should probably be included as well.

And now the ratings have been posted for the tournament, and no norms are shown.

I wonder if anyone knows why? It was five rounds at game/30. Several players played at levels that should have earned norms at levels ranging from Category 2 to Category 4, based on the ratings of their opponents and their scores, but under “total points” there are no entries where the norm calculation ought to be.

(FWIW, the event was event number 201101225671 , Chess for Charity, Jan 22, 2011. It was held in Auburn Hills, Michigan.)

I think the norms do not show up right away. It takes maybe a week or so after the event is rated. At least, that is what I have observed previously.

– Hal Terrie

As it says at uschess.org/datapage/norms-list.php

The norms list is updated weekly.

Currently this happens on Wednesdays (because we rerate on Tuesdays.)

The reason for this is that during the testing stage we noticed that the first rerate of an event has the biggest impact on whether or not performances in that event earned norms or not. Rather than post norms and then possibly have to take some of them away a few days later, we wait until after the first rerate of an event to compute them. They can still change after subsequent rerates.

Makes sense. Thanks. I’ll check back on Thursday.

Could someone please point me to more information about these category titles?

Ah, nevermind, I found it. Research more thoroughly, post less quickly. :slight_smile:

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