WinTD vs. SwissSys

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@Smythe Dakota

@wintdoan

… Every piece except the team vs team score. For that, you’d have to scan down the individuals and add them up yourself. …

Why is the team-vs-team score (game score) all that important to begin with? Only the overall team result (W,D,L) is used for pairing and prize purposes, with the game score used only for tiebreaks (directly or indirectly, depending on what tiebreak system is used).

Or, if the game score is necessary (or desirable), just add a line at the bottom of each team listing, like this:

1  CAMBRIDGE SPRINGERS A           2199  3.5  wbwb   W 72   W 40   D 28   W109
   1a  Christiansen, Larr 10460921 2611  4.0  wbwb   W 72a  W 40a  W 28a  W109a
   1b  Kelleher, William  10012571 2383  4.0  bwbw   W 72b  W 40b  W 28b  W109b
   1c  Christiansen, Nata 11366805 1902  2.0  wbw-   W 72c  W 40c  L 28d   -
   1d  Dimitrijevic, Vesn 12436451 1901  1.5  b-bb   W 72d   -     L 28e  D109c
   1e  Smythe, Bill       10339022 1850  2.0  -w-w    -     W 40d   -     W109d
                                                      4.0    4.0    2.0    3.5

2  MATE THE FORKERS                2199  3.0  bwbw   W 75   W 41   L 23   W 87
   2a  Mac Intyre, Paul   12232580 2304  1.0  bwbw   W 75a  L 41a  L 23a  L 87a
   2b  Mc Clain, Dylan    12013830 2284  2.5  wbwb   D 75b  W 41b  L 23b  W 87b
   2c  Hulse, Brian       10078644 2200  1.0  b-bw   D 75c   -     D 23c  W 87c
   2d  Price, Alan C      12534712 2009  4.0  wwwb   W 75d  W 41c  W 23d  W 87e
   2e  Fischer, Robert J  12345678 1234  1.0  -b--    -     W 41d   -      -
                                                      3.0    3.0    1.5    3.0

@wintdoan

… the team cross table has a different set of fields with different widths.

I think you are excessively concerned about column widths. Get out of programmer mode for a moment, and start thinking of the wallchart as a work of art, rather than a set of fields. Use Word (with Courier font, if appropriate) to design the output you want, then do whatever programming is necessary to get the desired result.

Bill Smythe

It’s important because the players on any contending team are going to want to see it so they can calculate tiebreaks. Granted, I wish they wouldn’t, but then I wish a lot of things. Swiss-Sys handles this by having an option to show the round’s game-point score in brackets next to the match score on the team wallcharts. One minor annoyance of this is that I have to resize the cells on my team wallcharts, making the individual ones look a little strange.

[Smythe_Dakota]

Here’s another idea:

Use 2 lines for the team header. That way, those atrocious long team names could be accommodated in the entire first line (spanning all fields), while the second line could include a few column headers as well as the team information:

1  CAMBRIDGE SPRINGERS A FOR ANNIE, B FOR BEATRICE, C FOR CHARLIE, D FOR DAVID
   Players:                 Team average 2199  3.5   W 72   W 40   D 28   W109
   1a  Christiansen, Larr 10460921 wbwb  2611  4.0   W 72a  W 40a  W 28a  W109a
   1b  Kelleher, William  10012571 bwbw  2383  4.0   W 72b  W 40b  W 28b  W109b
   1c  Christiansen, Nata 11366805 wbwb  1902  2.0   W 72c  W 40c  L 28c  D109c
   1d  Dimitrijevic, Vesn 12436451 bwbw  1901  1.5   W 72d  W 40d  L 28d  W109d

2  MATE THE FORKERS AND THE PINNERS AND THE SKEWERERS AND THE BLOCKERS        
   Players:                 Team average 2199  3.0   W 75   W 41   L 23   W 87
   2a  Mac Intyre, Paul   12232580 bwbw  2304  1.0   W 75a  L 41a  L 23a  L 87a
   2b  Mc Clain, Dylan    12013830 wbwb  2284  2.5   D 75b  W 41b  L 23b  W 87b
   2c  Hulse, Brian       10078644 bwbw  2200  1.0   D 75c  W 41c  D 23c  W 87c
   2d  Price, Alan C      12534712 wbwb  2009  4.0   W 75d  W 41d  W 23d  W 87d

And, if desired, the game scores could be added in a line at the end, as before.

(Note: I’ve removed the alternates for clarity.)

Bill Smythe