Grandmaster?

It should be pointed out that the original poster is a scholastic (junior?) player who just went from 600 to 1300 rating since playing his first tournament in early November. If he can keep improving by 700 rating points every two months, he should be a GM by April! :laughing: Of course, that would be the world’s biggest “if”.

To the original poster, don’t worry about becoming a GM yet. Right now, shoot for 1600. When you get there, shoot for 1800. When you get there, shoot for 2000. When you get there, shoot for National Master (2200). When you get there, you’ll realize how silly your original question was.

If you’ve got the talent and stick with it long enough, you’ll be a grandmaster some day. Worrying about it now is very premature.

–Fromper

I don’t see the original poster as worrying about it and instead asking a viable question. Maybe it’s a goal of his to become a Grandmaster and wants to know.

Or maybe he’s writing a blog post or a paper for school. We don’t want to keep information from a youngster that is curious.

Maybe he’ll see it’s too long and difficult of a road and not want to do it.

Fischer, Tal, Christiansen were never IM’s.

When did FIDE start awarding IM titles?

Sevan, I just noticed the following in the FIDE handbook (1.49)

Would you agree that means a 14 round RR would only count as 13 games towards a norm, meaning that unless someone played in a world or continental championship event they would always need norms from three events to get the GM title, since it also takes 27 games?

Yes that’s correct, however let’s look at an example that can buck that.

14 round tournament, let’s say avg rating of opponent is 2498. Means 9/14 will give a norm. Then we get into:

1.41c Where a player exceeds the norm requirements by one or more full points, then the length of the tournament is considered to be extended by that number of games when computing the total number of games.

So if I go on a tear for the remaining 5 rounds and score perfect 14/14, then it would count as a 14 game norm that was achieved in the first 9 rounds. Now the odds of this happening are not odd I would want to bet on because aside from damn good luck, you’d have to meet all of your required opponents in the first 9 rounds.

This is really to prevent shady results from someone ‘doing real well’.

So is this why you said it’s hard to do it in 2 norms – because one of the 14 rounders you have to beat the GM norm by a full point?

Pretty much yeah… I don’t recommend to anyone to try it as I think the risks of lost time, money, and nerves is too high.

99% of those seeking titles do it over 3 norms.

I was talking it through with some people in FIDE about doing a 5-round norm (6 players, single RR) but increasing the number of games necessary from 27 to 30-35. More norms would needed but then you can have a complete event in a single Fri night/Sat/Sun combo. If you have a bad tournament, only one weekend of time gone, instead of having to deal with the other 4 rounds. Of course the norm requirement would be higher for this type of norm, like 3.5 / 5 at the bare minimum. Didn’t go anywhere, but didn’t hurt to try.

Ahhh, yet another thing I have in common with Fischer. Nice. :sunglasses:

Personally, I’m finding those last 900+ points remaining between my rating and a (low) GM to be the trickiest. :open_mouth: :unamused: :laughing: :mrgreen: