Millionaire Open 2 - TD Rulings

I’ve been watching the Millionaire Open 2 -

Just want to give props to the TDs’ rulings thus far ~! :sunglasses:

Very instructional for those that are new TDs (USCF) / arbiters (FIDE) since each situation that arises is also magnified by the large prize money at stake.

Best,
Acerook

Do you have examples?

Alex Relyea

Round 3 -

  • IA Aris had to forfeit GM Kamsky for being 32 minutes late (default time 30 minutes) and a WGM who forgot the round was an hour early than Day 1.
  • NTD Enrique Huerta resolved a ruling between one person’s claim of 9A (though Black claimed “touch-move”, 10B) vs. another person saying they haven’t released the piece yet → impartial witness?
  • A game in the Open section wanted to draw on move 29 (double rooks, 3 v 3), but arbiter made them continue the game → result, they made a move each and draw.
  • GM Ivanov (black) lost on time for failing to make move 40 even though he had a repetition if he would have just moved. Verified by IA Aris and Carol.

Round 4 -

  • GM Robson and his opponent agreed to a draw on move 24 but arbiter made them continue (no draw 30 move rule) so game continues → game ended in a draw anyways.

While these situations can occur at local tournaments, something about it being broadcast makes it… interesting? Similarly, like So forfeiting at the US Championships for writing notes, players at the Sinquefield Cup not knowing the TC etc. and this resulting in time pressure etc.

Anyways some exciting chess going on at MC2 :mrgreen:

Best,
Acerook

The last statement is not correct. The only ways to properly claim a draw by threefold repetition under FLC are:

  1. point out that the opponent’s move has cause a repetition, or

  2. write the move that would cause the repetition on the scoresheet, stop the clock, and state the claim. (This is one of only two instances where it is necessary or even permitted to write a move on a scoresheet in advance of it being made. The other is a draw claim via 50 move rule.)

Had Ivanov moved, he would have lost the right to make the repetition claim.

Re: Alexander Ivanov…the rest of the story (as related to me by IA Aris Marghetis, who is the Open section chief here at MCO2) is that Mr. Ivanov thought he’d made the primary time control, which is why he let his initial 120 min. After investigation by Mr. Marghetis, it turned out that Mr. Ivanov had yet to make his 40th move.

The remainder of the rulings cited by Mr. Yang are, IMO, simply a matter of rules enforcement. There are a number of other examples that haven’t been caught on camera. Fortunately, the directors and arbiters here are, in the main, sticklers for that. (Believe me, the players are pretty familiar with many of the rules, and you won’t get away with lax enforcement.)

But at least he would have made move 40, right?

Bill Smythe

So what was the deal with the first-round forfeits?

:blush: Sorry - what I meant was he had a perpetual checking position but he didn’t make move 40 so Ivanov flagged.

While I can only state the rulings that are being broadcasted (I’m sure there’s plenty of others), the commentators and players seem to want an “instant replay” camera action. I’m not sure if the playing hall has cameras but it is Vegas so “eyes in the skies?” :smiley:

According to chess24.com, the wrong player list (including many players who had already withdrawn their entry) was used to determine the first-round pairings.

And here’s more info from the Millionaire Chess website:

Well, at least they got a pool party.

It might be nice if more FIDE events where norms are possible went to a 10 game format instead of a 9 game format. Since FIDE pairings put such a premium on color allocations most everyone would play each color 5 times. It would also not torpedo the norm chances for someone if an opponent should happen to pull a no-show, or in a case like this where the tournament officials messed up and accidentally paired up players who weren’t actually entered. :bulb:

With tournaments longer than nine rounds, a player can also not count a win if the player has too low a rating.

Alex Relyea

Hope they didn’t just exclude these folks from norms because they didn’t play 9 games.

Chris,
While it’s true that you can earn an 8-round norm in this situation, ytou still need a total of 27 rounds for your norms to earn the title. So, since 10-round FIDE norm events are very rare in the US, an 8-round norm is really not much of a norm.
Mike Regan

Unless you score more than your norm requirement in a 9 round event… if you’re norm requirement is 6.5/9 and you score 7.5/9 then that is a 10-game norm…

On the open section in round 9 on one of the lower boards, I had another 3 fold repetition claim made around move 25. It was a correct claim and, in accordance with the laws of chess (and prior precedent), I ruled the game was drawn.

There was also little doubt in my mind that the game had been seriously played.

Since I’m running six player double round robins, I’m guessing I’d be very attractive to players who got eight game norms. Is there a list somewhere?

Alex Relyea

The TD rulings I witnessed were as much about their calm, professional, and friendly demeanor as about the details of the rules.
Their excellent demeanor allowed contentious situations to de-escalate even when no possible ruling could have satisfied both players.

My game was next to another wherein one player twice complained to a TD that his opponent violated the touch-move rule. By maintaining his engagement with the upset player beyond the time it took to explain the reason for not upholding the complaint, he gave the player time to calm down.

In another game next to mine, after the first few moves, the four players in adjacent games realized that two of them were sitting at the wrong board numbers. They called the TD and asked what to do.
The TD showed a lot of common sense by saying — “So few moves have been played, let’s just discard these starts, switch to the correct board numbers, and start the correct games.” (paraphrased). Everyone was happy with that.


I wish large chess tournaments would post 2 sets of pair-announcement sheets for the current round, far enough away from each other so that the 2 crowds would not bump into each other.
After the games start and all the players are seated, one of the sets would be taken down — to simplify the task of recording Winner/Loser/Draw outcomes.

I believe the players next to me sat at the wrong board numbers because it was too hard to get close enough to the pairing sheets to read the tiny print. It did not help that the rows were all the same color on the sheet, not alternating white-gray-white-gray.

Like the four players I mentioned above, I too sat at the wrong board number in the previous round, because I could not quite read the board number from behind the others (although I figured out my mistake before the game started).
A second set of pairing sheets would have prevented the problem, because the crowd size would have been cut in half, enabling me to get close enough to read.
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The pairings were posted in two places - in the main lobby near the registration desk, and inside the playing hall. Each section chief also had a copy of the pairings. Finally, the pairings were posted on the event website each round.