can't find "enter new tournament" in affiliate area

Running Chess Tournaments
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I don’t have winTD or swisssys. I would like to enter round robin pairings manually in the TD/Affiliate area. But for the life of me I can’t find “enter new tournament” link once I’m there and logged in.

Any help appreciated, thanks.

Dave

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Dave,

Click on “Tournament rating reports”. It’s one of the options near the bottom of that page.

Alex Relyea

3

Make sure you are logged in as a TD, and not an affiliate. Only TDs can submit tournaments.

4

Be aware, when you’re trying to enter a round robin table, that the field labelled number of rounds really means number of columns. In a swiss system table, the number of columns is the number of rounds, but in round robin table, the number of columns is one more than the number of rounds. So if you enter the actual number of rounds (i.e., one less than the number of players), it will give you an error message and won’t let you proceed any further. When I entered my first tournament, I wasted more than an hour figuring this out.

5

The online crosstable entry/edit form has recently been updated to add a reminder to TDs that for a round robin event the number of rounds (aka columns) must be the same as the number of players, and I believe it also rejects selection of ‘round robin’ as the format if those fields are different.

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Maybe it would be better if the form first asked for format (Swiss or RR), then asked for number of rounds if Swiss, or number of players if RR.

Bill Smythe

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Wouldn’t that require redrawing the form? I find the more times I make someone ‘submit’ the form the more complaints we get about it taking too long to enter a tournament.

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While that is true if there are an odd number of players, with an even number the tournament will have one less round than number of players, e.g., six players only require a five round round-robin.

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The issue is not how many rounds are played, the issue is how many rows and columns there are when entering data in a round robin-style crosstable, ie, one that looks like this:

. ... -1- -2- -3- -4- -5- -6- 1 Joe * W L D L W 2 Sam L * W D W L 3 Edd W L * D W L 4 Jim D D D * D D 5 Hal W L L D * W 6 Wes L W W D L *

Because both the rows and columns represent pairing #s not rounds, the number of rows and columns must be identical.

For a Swiss event (or even for a Round Robin event being entered in Crenshaw-Berger table format), the number of columns is the number of rounds played, for a Round Robin even it is the number of players.

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Oops. While I like to think I can set up a RR fairly easily, I haven’t submitted a rating report on one in decades.