My name is Jonathan and I was woundering, Is it actually leagal for a chess player to charg people cash to play them at a park? If so, what would be the best price to ask for? Also what happens if I lose… Do I give them the money back?
As luck would have it! I live in an extreamly rual area, and the're an't much enthusiasim on chess. Extreamly rual means BACK IN THE STICKS. :mrgreen: Though there is a tourney at a colledge in the next county in which I am entered in. I am realy looking foward to this as I am unrated and want to git a rating. So I will know where I stand.
Lastly I would like to promote chess at my old high school and possiblly start an actual chess club. The one that was in play while I went there was a joke. They didn't even have tournament worthy equipment. If a player went to a tourney they went with their parents. Any sugestions anybody?
On venice beach you can get a game for 5 dollars. When you win you get 10 dollars. No clocks, but the hustler has a cellphone and owns the store behind the table. It would be no problem to have someone on the second floor with a computer . It is best to avoid street hustlers you don’t know.
I wouldn’t hustle in a rural area, not enough business. Better to teach lessons instead (legit and you don’t have to give the money back if you lose). Teaching is easier to explain to the 1 cop in Butler TN, who is probably the mayor too.
Thanks fer your replies they were most helpful. Nolan was right in asking
Indeed since I am unrated and not well known in the tournament world… I wouldn’t even pay to play me. lol Giving lessons legit would be my best bet, but I’ll hold off on attempting that until I have an established rating. Just incase the question why should I pay you for lessons comes up. I can simply give them my rating and if it is in the class range of C-A, then they might be more inclined to take me up on the offer of lessons.
As for the promoting chess at my old high school goes, I may call the school after the tourney on the 28th and see if they are interested in forming a schoolastic chess club and team. If that doesn't pan out mabe I could talk to the local Burger King manager and persuade them to allow me to set up club meetings there. Of course there is always the Johnson County Welcome center. We had our senior picnic there and it seemed like it could hold a bunch of chess heads in the lower level/ basment. Maybe they would let a chess club meet there. Who knows it might catch on and spread like a brush fire on a wendy day. :mrgreen: Though my optimism is limited by the fact that the economy in the shape that it is in, the school might not be able to afford such a program.
Unlike poker or dice, chess is purely a game of skill, not chance.
Therefore playing for money is not considered gambling, and therefore not illegal. At least, not in Michigan.
The Police raided a Chess Tournament in Cleveland in 1973, arrested the Tournament director and confiscated the Chess sets on charges of allowing gambling (cash prizes to winners) and possession of gambling devices (the Chess sets). http://www.chess-poster.com/english/notes_and_facts/did_you_know.htm
…as opposed to those reputable chess hustlers you know personally?
I don’t think any of the guys on North Avenue Beach has pocket fritz. From what I hear, they do just fine without it. However, chess hustlers may do things differently in California, that home of all things cutting-edge.
A hustlers only goal is to separate you from your money. What you want to see at the North Avenue Beach Chess Pavilion is the deception and misdirection. It is not just over the board. If you are lucky you can catch them distracting, disheartening, enraging or even threatening their opponents.
here’s a possible scenario me and my buddy came up with and were thinking about trying out if the opportunity presents itself:
we sell a pencil to some one for 5 bucks before a game
if they win we let them return the pencil and give them back 10 dollars on accident for change. if they lose then they just keep the pencil!
think that would hold up against gambling charges in court or anyone would care?
as for the high school club idea i think you should definitely pursue it if it sounds like fun to you. i’d say call the school up right away and let them know what you’re thinking. just ask to talk to the chess coach or the principal if there’s no longer a chess coach and go from there. u might need to get some sort of vendor card or fingerprint clearance card. have you considered that?
I dunno, they might not get you for the gambling, but they’d definitely get you for the unpaid sales tax on the pencils!
Seriously though, I doubt any small-stakes games would be an issue. Maybe there’d be a problem if there was a lot of money on the table, but in a public place that’s unwise no matter what the legality.
Giving lessons legit would be my best bet, but I’ll hold off on attempting that until I have an established rating. Just incase the question why should I pay you for lessons comes up. I can simply give them my rating and if it is in the class range of C-A, then they might be more inclined to take me up on the offer of lessons.
