Rating US Open ?

Does anyone know when the US open 2006 will be rated by uscf and will it be rated by fide in the october 2006 list ?

Jon

I was under the mistaken impression that it had already been rated. :frowning:

I don’t know if Walter is back in TN yet, I will try to reach him on Monday.

The deadline for the October FIDE List is August 31st, so they’ve got over a week to get it submitted.

Some of the side events were rated and others were not. The main tournament (US Open) was not even submitted for rating yet. The Denker has the same problem, although the Polgar was already rated a week ago.

Michael Aigner

Different TDs were responsible for the US Open, the side events, the Polgar and the Denker.

Chris Merli was running side events. I had to set him up to submit events where the USCF is the organizer of record (they’re accounted for differently, so there’s a slightly different online submission process), but once we got that cleared up on Wednesday he stayed pretty current on his events for the rest of the week.

It looks like Sevan Muradian submitted the Polgar under his affiliate ID rather than under the USCF affiliate ID. I don’t know who ran the Denker.

I know Tim Just did a test upload on the US Open after the merge, but I don’t know what happened to keep it from being rated soon after it ended. I gave Walter one correction to a last round result that was reported to the USCF on Monday.

An e-mail I recently received from the chief TD, Walter Brown, indicates the Open will be rated this week.

Tim Just
Backroom Chief

One small correction: The Polgar Blitz has been rated, NOT the regular Polgar

One puzzling question: Why should it take over a week to rate the US Open? The tournament was very well run, and all parties involved should be commended. Why drop the ball after the tournament ends?

I don’t know about the Open, but I have had to delay rating an event if a membership check was made out to the USCF. Once the office receives the check and processes the membership then the event can finally be rated on-line.

I just checked with Walter Brown, he’s working on getting the US Open, the Denker and the Polgar rated today. (The Polgar event that has been rated was a side event, as someone else has already noted.)

Obviously, since I wrote the software for online submission of rating reports, I’m of the opinion that all events should be rated within a day or two of when they end. :slight_smile:

However, not all TDs have embraced that technology or see the value in getting an event rated within hours rather than a week or more after it ends. There are still a few very active TDs who send ALL their events to the USCF office via the mail.

USCF National events should be examples of how to do things right. The Spring Nationals were all rated quite quickly, except for one side event where there was a system crash.

The USCF fell short of that goal this time.

jwiewel,

You are correct about having to wait for a membership number for small events. However, in a larger event you get one “exception” entry, able to submit w/o having the ID number, for every forty entries.
In a USCF-run event, they can totally override that limitation and rate the tournament immediately. Hence, the frustration.

Moreover, in a 9 day event there should be ample time to check everyone’s USCF membership status. Most of them would have been checked when they pre-registered for the event anyway.

I played in a local event this past Saturday and Sunday at a club in New York (2 sections, about 40 players in all) and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already rated as of yesterday (i.e., the day after the tournament ended).

It was rated Sunday, the day the tournament ended.

Few TDs have embraced the online submission process as heartily as Steve has. The system is undoubtably better for his notes to me about what hasn’t worked right for him, too.

About the only time one of Steve’s tournaments is NOT rated the same day it ends is when there are system problems that prevent him from submitting it.

The 2006 US Open, Denker and Polgar were all rated Monday afternoon.

The Event ID for the US Open is 200608131831.

The Event ID for the Denker is 200608110101.

The Event ID for the Polgar is 200608110131.

Hats off to Steve for his same day submissions. Now if the system rated it ASAP I could see my rating by the time I get home from the Marshall. :slight_smile: Then again, maybe I don’t want to see my rating when I get home. :blush: (I don’t want to even know how many more points I would have lost at the US Open with no floor.)

I think it’s a terrific system and I know the players who come to our tournaments like seeing the rating changes come so quickly. Online submission has certainly made my job a lot easier. Though the only bad part is when my students go checking up on my results.

We normally rate events just after the top of the hour from 9 AM to 11 PM central time. If an event is rated in the 11 PM run, it is usually posted to the web by 1 AM. (We usually update the web every 3-4 hours during the day.)

Steve’s good but I;ve yet to see one of his Thursday Night G/30 be on the website by the time I get back from Manhattan at 1:15 AM. he’s usually still paying out prizes at midnight. I giess we should emand that he submit the report first then pay out the prizes. :slight_smile: I’m sure the grandmasters would understand. :smiling_imp:

 The last prize for tonight's "4 Rated Games Tonight!"  tournament was paid out about 11:50 pm EST.  The tournament was submitted for rating at 12:00:05 am  EST (11:00:05 pm  Central Time), and was rated the next time my computer refreshed the TD/A status screen, at about 11:02 pm CST.

Yes, we currently rate events right after the top of the hour, so an event submitted ahead of 11:01PM central time will usually be rated by about 11:05. (That’s the last run of the day, we start again at 9AM.)

However, it may not show up on the website for another 40 minutes or longer, because we currently update the crosstable files in batches about every 2 hours. (And if we’re running a rerate, it may take longer, because we run website updates less frequently then.)

And this schedule is subject to change, though I haven’t changed it much in around a year. (I try to balance both the internal processing load and the drain on network bandwidth between the server in TN and the ISP site in Nebraska, I’m fairly comfortable with the current scheduling.)

Rating of new events usually comes to a halt for a half day or so when we cut a new rating supplement.

BTW, in case people haven’t seen the notice elsewhere, starting in January 2007 the USCF will be publishing official rating lists every month rather than every two months, though Top 100 lists will continue to be issued on a bi-monthly schedule.

However, the only printed supplement that will be sent out in 2007 is the 2007 Annual List. Affiliates who need hard copies of monthly supplements during the year will be able to purchase them for a nominal fee.

Since there won’t be a printed version except at year end, do you expect each cutoff tdate o fall later in the month?