Given the events that have taken place in the US Championship, with the expulsion of GM Christopher Yoo, his results did not count. Is it still by rule that if Christopher Yoo had completed half the tournament, then his results would have counted?
I can recall back in 1985, I was competing in a Club Championship here in NJ, and I believe it was 10 players in that event, and I lost my 3rd Round game to an opponent who played the last game of his life. A few weeks later, he succumbed to cancer, and my loss to him did not count, and I ended up winning that tournament with that result not counting. One of my competitors call that win a total fluke, and I could not agree more. I am sure that this sort of thing has happened, and if Christopher Yoo had completed at least half the tournament, then the results would have counted?
Thank You.
Respectfully Submitted, David A. Cole USCF Life Member
30B. Scoring. Scoring is the usual one/one-half/zero, except that players who withdraw before playing half their scheduled games shall be scored as not having competed at all. Their completed games must still be rated, but they are not considered part of their opponentsâ records for prize purposes.
There are no specific rules in the book applicable to the situation where a player is expelled other than for the TD adjusting / correcting their rating or for cheating, leaving withdrawal as the most analogous situation (which makes sense considering thatâs what they did, applied round robin withdrawal).
FIDE treats the situation identically:
When a player withdraws or is expelled from a tournament, the effect shall be as follows:
If a player has completed less than 50 % of his/her games, the results shall remain in the tournament table (for rating and historical purposes, but they shall not be counted in the final standings. The unplayed games of the player are indicated by (-) in the tournament table and those of his/her opponents by (+). If neither player is present this will be indicated by two (-).
If a player has completed at least 50 % of his/her games, the results shall remain in the tournament table and shall be counted in the final standings. The unplayed games of the player are shown as above. N.B. article 6.6 should also be applicable for team event
Iâm not sure thatâs not exactly identical, although the effect is the same. As I read it, FIDE would list the expelled player and show the results but not count them, whereas it looks like 30B would pretend like the player was never there at all.
Since the player was expelled, 28i et seq is what applies, right? And in this instance, since the expulsion was (as I understand it) for conduct-related reasons rather than for receiving assistance in games, the games would be rated in an extra-games section, per 28i3.
No. 28I, by its terms, is not applicable here for a conduct-related expulsion:
28I. Opponents of expelled players. If a player is removed from an event or section because of being made ineligible by a corrected rating (28H), or because the Tournament Director has determined that there is reason to believe that the player may have received assistance in previous games in that event, the following adjustments shall be made to that playerâs opponents:
In the TD tip following rule 15B is the word ânotâ missing from this sentence (which is very badly written, IMHO.)
TD TIP: Players expelled for a âfair playâ violation, nor their opponents, should have any of their games reported for rating purpose and may be treated as forfeits.
Proposed rewrite:
TD TIP: Players expelled for a âfair playâ violation should not have any of their games reported for ratings purposes for either the expelled player or their opponents. These games may be treated as forfeits.
I am becoming convinced that players removed from a tournament for disciplinary reasons not involving cheating (eg, âconduct unbecomingâ) are not directly addressed by the rules.
If you beat a player fair and square who later on in the tournament is expelled for a âfair playâ violation in a different game, why should the game you won fair and square not be rated?
Thatâs a valid point. There shouldnât be the potential for a player to void one or more previous results through âfair playâ sanctions unless there is reason to believe those results were tainted in some way. (Itâs a drastic way to avoid a ratings change just because one is having a bad day at the chessboard.)
In any TD ruling or action, several issues need to be resolved. (In many cases the answer is obvious, in others it is not.)
Does this affect the ratability of this game or other games?
Does this affect the tournament standings, future pairings or prize distribution?
Does this affect the playerâs continued participation in this or other events?
What are the options for the player(s) involved to appeal this ruling/action?
I agree with this, but it seems to me that treating an expulsion (other than for assistance or corrected rating) as the equivalent of a withdrawal is a reasonable default answer to all of these questions (other than the answers implied by âexpulsionâ).
I have a problem with the word âexpulsionâ in certain situations, like moving a player to a different section because of eligibility issues, which is IMHO quite different from kicking a player out of the tournament due to some kind of rules, fair play or ethics violation and that may change the answers to the 4 bullet points I just made.
Since half of the schedule was not completed in the round robin the player needs to be removed, regardless of why that happened. Youâve opened up a separate issue regarding expulsion after half of the schedule is completed. In that case a decision needs to be made as to whether or not the reason for the expulsion may have applied to the completed games.
Then you should be prepared for either the expelled player or the opponents to appeal your decision (who appeals will depend on what the decision is). Think things through calmly and thoroughly when deciding what the best justifiable decision is.
I think thereâs a difference between the games being included in the event crosstable (assuming the expulsion occurred in the 2nd half of the event) and rating the games played by the expelled player.
Unless thereâs a reason to believe previously completed games were not fairly contested, those games should be rated regardless of whether or not they are included in the crosstable or put in a separate section.