I love the concept of this tournament just before the World Open. They’ve doubled the prize fund as well and with guaranteed cash for titled players who play all 9 games this could turn out to be a spectacular event.
Can players without FIDE ratings can enter the tournament? The info page at chesstour.com says players with FIDE over 2100 pay $215 and then it just says “others” pay $315… Does “others” include USCF players below 2100 without FIDE ratings?
It’s confusing because when I go to the online entry form, it says:
“FIDE US player under 2100, advance entry by 6/23”.
That makes it seem as if you must have a FIDE rating to play.
I’d love to support the event with my entry fee/donation. It would be a killer warm up for World Open class play. Obviously the players in U2000 and U18 (hovering between class A and B right now) will feel lighter after 9 rounds of heavyweight action.
You may be better off going to the FIDE website, fide.com, for some of the specifics.
FIDE does not have ‘provisional’ ratings in the same sense that the USCF does. You either have a published FIDE rating or you do not.
With a few exceptions (such as for players in the Olympiad) a FIDE rating is not published until the player has 9 FIDE ratable games.
These can be earned in multiple events over a two year period, but you have to have 3 or more FIDE ratable games in an event in order for any of them to be considered FIDE ratable. For the first such FIDE ratable event for a player, I think you have to score at least one full point, in subsequent events I think you only need a half point. (It’s possible these parameters may have been changed in Dresden.)
The lowest rating on the April 2009 FIDE Rating List is 1401, but I think the minimum is actually 1400. According to a recent note I got from Stewart Reuben, that goes to 1200 starting with the September 2009 FIDE Ratings List.
FIDE is going from quarterly (January/April/July/October) to bi-monthly lists (January/March/May/July/September/November) this year. The next FIDE Ratings List is July but the one after that will be September.
So you need to play at least three rated games in the tourney and score at least one point… that gets you started with FIDE then you have to get six more rated games within a two year period from the first provisional. Got it. Thanks for the info, Nolan.
I wish I could take enough days off of work to attend this tournament, but I only have enough to make it to the World Open. Is this going to be an annual event, because I may try to save up vacation for next year and hit both events back to back as the original poster is doing.
Yeah Abba, there’s certainly a bunch of chess to be played over those two weeks. Poker is my job these days so I generally make my own schedule. Hopefully I’ll be flying straight from Philly on July 5th (last round of World Open) to Vegas for the last Day 1 of the WSOP main event- should I nail a satellite first of course. I’m not dropping 10K out of my own pocket to enter the big one.
Thanks again for clearing up the FIDE stuff Nolan.
Looks like the rule has just been changed… an unrated player now only needs to score 1/2 point against 3 FIDE rated players in their first FIDE rated event. See the following thread
I’m not sure if that’s the applicable section, below is a quote from the FIDE Handbook section on the working of the rating system, notice the section I have bolded:
Of course it is possible that this section has not yet been updated. I’ll drop a note to Stewart Reuben asking him about it.
Is July 1st the effective date as to the starting date of the tournament or the time the tournament is rated by FIDE after July 1st? I ask because the Philadelphia International is the last week of June but it won’t be rated until after July 1st.
I agree with Sevan, FIDE considers the first day of the event as the date of the event. Thus an event that starts on June 30th will use the April 2009 FRL, one that starts on July 1st uses the July 2009 FRL.
BTW, I stand corrected in my earlier statement about how FIDE ratings are computed. Under the present rules you need 1 point in your first FIDE rated event, with 3 or more FIDE rated opponents, but in subsequent events all you need is to face 3 or more FIDE rated opponents, you can score 0 points and those games still count towards your FIDE rating.
That 1 point minimum score in one’s first event changes to 1/2 point for events that start on or after July 1, 2009.
So I would need to score 1 point against 3 FIDE rated players at the Philadelphia International… and then in subsequent events even if I go 0 for 6 against FIDE rated players… within 2 years of the first event, I will still get an official FIDE rating. Is that correct?
I’ve been to the FIDE web site but I didn’t see the proposed rules changes for July 1st. Regardless, I will certainly need to score one full point in the first event.
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